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PostSubject: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyThu 14 Apr 2011 - 21:11

First topic message reminder :

Yayaya tadi kita sempet ngobrol sangat singkat mengenai mic recommended lewat twittter. Gw pikir mendingan bikin thread baru di sini supaya tanya2 soal tool recording (+mixing?) lebih gampang dan lebih bebas~ ;3

kalo perlu saling tanya tool2 buat recording etc lah pokoknya XD

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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 19:51

haha maaf ^^V
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 19:55

@crash: sankyuu Happy Blush *lngsngdownload*
eh, klo di adobe audition yang tweak2 itu di mana yah?? @_@
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:01

di menu processingnya mungkin.
gw udah lupa, udah lama ga pake audition >_<
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:05

zannen >_<

eh, nge-tweak EQ itu ngerubah2 db nya bukan??
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:11

yap, merubah tingkat "peak" dari tiap frekuensi yang ingin di equalize Smile

*lol penjelasan phail ini kayanya xD
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:14

hmm,, ok~ sankyuu~~

LOL bukan penjelasannya yang phail, tapi yang di ajarin terlalu nggak tahu apa2 xDD

wew, db di naikin malah noisenya nambah,, @_@
semoga hilang pake noise remove >_<
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:18

err, cara ngilanin noise yang asik :

seleksi part silent yang isinya noise doang -> jadiin noise profile
baru noise profile itu di pake untuk denoise part vocalnya.
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denoise dulu baru EQ Smile

biasanya sih gw denoise -> compressor -> EQ
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:21

Study humu,humu,,
berarti noise profile dulu nih,,

terima kasih banyak info dan tips nya m(__)m
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 27 Apr 2011 - 20:23

crash-san, mind explaining to me what's the use of using the compressor thing? I always use it, my muffleness/clipping noises is gone, but there's always something....distorted, especially with the 's', it sounds more like a buzz XD I use the multiband compressor at times, and the dynamic compressor I think? @A@ with audition of course XD i hate the voice-over compressor tsk
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PostSubject: Audio Signal Compressor   All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyFri 29 Apr 2011 - 13:54

ok bira, gw coba jelasin apa itu compressor.
gw pake bahasa indonesia aja ya, grammar gw sucks bgt. jatoh2nya gw ngomong engrish dan tar pada ga nangkep maksud gw lol

compressor itu adalah device/plugin untuk mengatur sinyal audio yang masuk sehingga volumenya lebih stabil, efeknya? sinyal yang terlalu lemah volumenya "diangkat" volumenya ke posisi "threshold" yang telah di tentukan. dan vice versa, sinyal yang melebihi level "threshold" otomatis diturunkan volumenya. tujuannya biar dynamic range dari sinyal audio tersebut jadi lebih baik/stabil dan bisa bikin sinyal audionya cut through the mix Smile

tl;dr?
imagine, compressor as an automatic volume control. got it? lol!
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compressor ada beberapa macam. ada compressor biasa, ada multiband compressor, optocompressor (ini setau gw paling cocok untuk vocal), dll
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multiband compressor basicly compressor biasa, cuma dia bisa menghandle multiband freq sesuai yang udah di tentukan (ex:freq a rentang 1-2, freq b rentang 2-3, freq c rentang 3-4. tapi biasanya cuma band. low,medium sama high)

apa keuntungannya pake multiband? kita bisa ngatur quantitas dan jenis kompresi beda2 setiap range frekuensinya Smile

kalo opto/optical compressor, err. penjelasannya panjang ya.
>>http://www.mercenary.com/whocoandwhma.html
sebenernya cara kerjanya secara garis besar sama sih. cuma menurut gw optocompressor ini lebih "warm" ketimbang compressor biasa lol.
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gimana cara pakai compressor?

secara garis besar di compressor ada beberapa settingan yang bisa di tweak.
1. Threshold
apaan sih threshold itu? threshold adalah batasan kapan si compressor ini harus kerja. contohnya gini :
setting threshold pada angka -16dB, maka jika ada sinyal audio yang besarnya melewati -16dB (-12dB misalnya), maka compressor akan mulai bekerja, kalo di bawah -16dB maka compressor tidak bekerja.
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>setting gw : tergantung input sinyal audionya, tergantung kondisi overall mixyna Razz

2.Ratio
gunanya untuk mengatur rasio kompresi. misalnya ada sinyal 10db yang melewati batasan threshold. sementara ratio kita set 10:1.
otomatis sinyal 10db yg melewati threshold itu di kompresi 10kali dari input semula = 10/10 = 1db

compressor dengan ratio yang tinggi juga biasa disebut limiter/hardcompressor.
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>setting gw: untuk vocal sebaiknya menyesuaikan dengan situasi ya, biasanya 2:1 - 4:1 cukup.

3.Gain
gunanya untuk mengatur besarnya volume yang diterima oleh sinyal audio. kalau lebih dari batasan threshold sinyal akan tetap di compress,
efeknya suara akan lebih keras. silakan di tweak kalau hasil output dari compressor terdengar kecil. setting terlalu besar dan akan muncul efek overcompressed/"pumping" Razz

>setting gw : feeling xD

4.Attack
untuk mengatur berapa cepat compressor ini bereaksi ketika ada sinyal yang kurang/melebihi batas threshold.

>setting gw : feeling juga.

5.Release
untuk mengatur berapa lama compressor ini melepaskan reaksi kompresinya.
setting terlalu cepat dan efeknya akan mirip fx gate Razz

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>setting gw : tergantung tempo lagunya, mau di set tight atau laidback Smile
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untuk masalah bira, keliatannya gain/rationya terlalu besar Smile

semoga membantu Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyFri 29 Apr 2011 - 17:38

omg. crash-san. you sure know a lot about these things...mau jadi sound engineer ya?

/baca semua ohhhh, compressor gitu ya...I thought that some compressors 'amplify' certain sounds or smth...rupanya gini ya...

crash-san, you're awesome! thanks a lot! *A* I just have to find where I can control the gain and ratio XD
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyFri 29 Apr 2011 - 17:50

Woaaaaa... Crash-sensei keluar ilmunya..!!!! Keliatan kayak buku teks gw lol!! Sumpah keren cuy.
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyFri 29 Apr 2011 - 18:10

wow harus di catet nih~!!! (copas! ilmu dasar yg harus di pelajari!!! Study )
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptySat 30 Apr 2011 - 7:43

haha, syukurlah kalo penjelasannya membantu Very Happy
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buat sayaka silakan tanya lagi problemnya disini Smile
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptySat 30 Apr 2011 - 8:44

yah,mesti nanya lagi..kirain udah langsung dijawab -_-'

yaudah deh nanya lagi
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jadi gini,saya mau ngerekam pake FL studio yang demo,tapi tiap ngerekam pasti langsung kemix sama track 1 (off vocal lagunya)

bisa minta penjelasannya biar pas ngerekam off vocalnya ga ikutan ga ya? kaka crash tolong bantu Nyan
eh iya,kalo versi demo bakal expire ga sih?
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptySat 30 Apr 2011 - 9:18

pertama set ASIOnya dulu, gw udah pernah bikin tutorial bergambarnya disini
http://tutorial.gengfruityloops.com/fl-studio-asio-settings.html

udah sip? sekarang kita rekaman pake EDISON via mixer FL, tutorialnya disini
http://tutorial.gengfruityloops.com/rekaman-di-fruity-loops-menggunakan-edison.html

kalo rekaman pake EDISON ga akan nyampur sama offvocalnya Smile

pake FL versi 10 ? kalo mau cracknya nanti gw PM.
demo ga akan expire, cuma gabisa ngesave flp aja (save MP3/Wav tetep bisa)
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptySat 30 Apr 2011 - 20:57

wooooooh..banyak gambarnya Shocked
makasih kakak crash...saya coba dulu ya di rumah, saya rekaman pake edison juga malah kedengeran yah? tapi yaudah deh saya coba dulu

sekali lagi makasih ya kaka crash *sungkem*

eh iya crash, di pilihan 'in' saya nggak ada line in, adanya yang full suara semua *_*
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptySun 1 May 2011 - 0:19

ah what the heck post sebelomnya ga bisa diedit TAT

oiya,udah bisa crash..gataunya saya rekaman di line master bukannya line 1(simpel banget ternyata) XE
it works now

crash punya lumayan tutorial ya? Periksa di situ aja deh,nanti kalo mentok nanya lagi ya Smile

iya pake FL 10,crack bantuan diterima dengan senang hati kumendan *sungkem*
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptySun 1 May 2011 - 0:42

ya, gw nulis tutor lumayan banyak buat FL.
baca2 aja disitu Very Happy
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tutorial cara pake autotune, vocoder juga ada.
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyMon 2 May 2011 - 13:13

@ crash: maaf nih rada gak mudeng >_<
itu tutorial diatas untuk software apa crash? FL yah? OwO
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyTue 3 May 2011 - 19:08

^
yang mana? untuk basic knowledge tentang compressor itu berlaku universal Very Happy
bahkan hardwarenya sekalipun Very Happy

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yang gw kasih ke sayaka itu untuk FL Studio / Fruity Loops Studio.
gw biasa pake itu soalnya.
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyTue 3 May 2011 - 19:34

crash!! Mau nanya dong Cryout

tadi mic *logitech headset* saya kecelakaan,kabelnya kesandung kaki terus jatoh keras gitu..eh pas saya coba tulisannya 'problem with audio device',saya restart dan bisa lagi..tapi pas saya coba FL ga bisa playback,di devicenya kedetect drivernya tapinya Sad

bisa bantu ga? (maaf ya crash jadi tempat nanya mulu)
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyTue 3 May 2011 - 20:01

itu headset USB?
coba buka options -> audio settings.

audio devicenya ngarah kemana?
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 4 May 2011 - 16:50

bukan USB, jack biasa

tadi pas diperiksa gataunya ASIOnya doang yang ga jalan, ntar saya coba donload lagi deh Sad
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PostSubject: Re: All About Singer's Tool    All About Singer's Tool  - Page 2 EmptyWed 4 May 2011 - 16:58

FL itu sm sperti AU dan Audacity ya?
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